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Old Timey Crimey #128: Butch Cassidy - “Beaver Weaver”

Old Timey Crimey #128: Butch Cassidy - “Beaver Weaver”

August 27, 2021

A man who knew how to plan, and also knew the value of a good thank you note. He left behind a legacy of mystery, unanswered questions, and love of pie. 

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Sources: 

Kathy Weiser on Legends of America. Wild West. Homestead Act.  Wild Bunch.

Utah.com

Britannica

Most Notorious Podcast – Guest Charles Leerhsen

Wyoming State Archives

Wikipedia: Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid

Newspapers.com

San Fran Call

Colorado Historic Newspapers:

Routt County Courier.

Steamboat Pilot.

The Craig Courier.

Cal Dig Newspaper Collection:

Sacramento Daily Union

San Diego Union.

Music:

Evil Plan by Kevin MacLeod
Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3725-evil-plan
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Lobby Time by Kevin MacLeod
Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3986-lobby-time
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Old Timey Crimey #127: Brooke Hart - “Beep Beep”

Old Timey Crimey #127: Brooke Hart - “Beep Beep”

August 20, 2021

A young man is kidnapped, and an entire town loses its mind. 

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Sources:

Swift Justice: Murder and Vengeance in a California Town by Harry Farrell

Findagrave.

Nor Call Media Museum. 

Newspapers.com:

Santa Rosa Press Democrat.

San Francisco Examiner

Brooklyn Times Union

Oakland Tribune

California Digital Newspaper Collection:

San Jose Mercury News

Amanda Sedlak-Hevener on Ranker

Bob Calhoun on SF Weekly. 

Scott Herhold on Mercury News. 

Carl Nolte on SF Gate. 

Timothy Hughes on Rare and Early Newspapers. 

Jack Major on Major Smolinski

Wikipedia

Music: 

Evil Plan by Kevin MacLeod
Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3725-evil-plan
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Breaktime by Kevin MacLeod
Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3457-breaktime
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Old Timey Crimey #126: Jessie Costello - “Jawdropper”
Old Timey Crimey #124 - Timey After Timey in Pennsylvania

Old Timey Crimey #124 - Timey After Timey in Pennsylvania

July 30, 2021

In the first official Timey After Timey, Amber talks about Irene Schroeder's bonkers crime spree in the 1930s, and Kristy discusses the murder of Laurie Show in the 1990s. 

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Sources: 

Irene Schroeder

https://murderpedia.org/female.S/s/schroeder-irene.htm

https://www.wvgenweb.org/marshall/dague-schroeder.pdf

https://www.ncnewsonline.com/news/local_news/schroeder-dague-executed-85-years-ago-today/article_bdeb542a-2c5d-5e61-851b-3d27c442d92d.html

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/99299417/irene-schroeder

The book Family & Lies: Before there was Bonnie and Clyde There Was Gramma and Glenn by DJ Everette

 

Laurie Show Murder

Paul Smith. Fox43

Keith Schweigert. Fox43.

Niki T. Ingram. Philadelphia Bar. (review of book)

Jed Reinert. Lancaster Online.

Lambert v Blackwell et all. Judyrecords.

Murderpedia.

Ted Anthony. Herald-Journal

Laura Fries. Variety.

Tom Jicha. Sun Sentinel.

Kristal Hawkins. TruTV.

The Stalking of Laurie Show on YouTube.

 

Music: 

Evil Plan by Kevin MacLeod
Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3725-evil-plan
License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

Old Timey Crimey #123: Charley Ross - “Tea Party”

Old Timey Crimey #123: Charley Ross - “Tea Party”

July 23, 2021

The kidnapping that changed kidnapping in America. 

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Sources: 

Heather Thomas. Library of Congress Blog.

PBS: Whyy.

Findagrave.

Thomas Everly. Pennsylvania History: A Journal of Mid-Atlantic Studies.

Carrie Hagen. SmithsonianMag.

Carrie Hagen. We Is Got Him: The Kidnapping that Changed America

Ryan Fin. Medium.

Meaghan Good. The Charley Project.

Jason Lucky Morrow. Historical Crime Detective.

History.com.

USHistory.org.

Newspapers.com:

Philadelphia Inquirer.

Yonkers Statesman.

Chronicling America:

NY Herald.

Music: 

Evil Plan by Kevin MacLeod
Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3725-evil-plan
License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

Breaktime by Kevin MacLeod
Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3457-breaktime
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Old Timey Crimey #122: Elizabeth Van Lew - “Library Horse”

Old Timey Crimey #122: Elizabeth Van Lew - “Library Horse”

July 16, 2021

This week, we talk about a woman who was loyal to her country during a time of deep division, and who was one of the most successful "spies" of the Civil War--but don't let her hear you call her a spy. 

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Sources: 

Cate Lineberry. Smithsonian. 

Mike Gorman. Civil War Richmond. 

The American Civil War. 

Histprofdave. Ask Historians subreddit. 

National Park Service. 

Intelligence Knowledge Network.

Kimberly J. Largent. Ohio State U.

William Gilmore Beymer. Harpers Monthly via Civil War Richmond. 

Lois Leveen. The Atlantic. 

Newspapers.com:

NY Times. 

Thad Morgan. History.com. 

Kathy Weiser-Alexander. Legends of America

David Smith. The Guardian. 

 

Music: 

Evil Plan by Kevin MacLeod
Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3725-evil-plan
License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

Old Timey Crimey #114: The Princes in the Tower (Pt 2) - “Princeducken”

Old Timey Crimey #114: The Princes in the Tower (Pt 2) - “Princeducken”

May 21, 2021

We continue to delve into one of history's greatest mysteries--what happened to the young would-be king of England after his uncle sent him and his brother to the tower? We finish up this two-parter with a discussion of theories and bones. Featuring special guest, Hugo-nominated fanzine editor Chris Garcia!

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Music: 

Chill Wave by Kevin MacLeod
Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3498-chill-wave
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Evil Plan by Kevin MacLeod
Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3725-evil-plan
License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

Sources:

Ben Johnson. Historic UK. https://www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/HistoryofEngland/The-Princes-in-the-Tower/

Meilan Solly. Smithsonian Mag. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/did-richard-iii-order-deaths-his-nephews-they-slept-tower-london-180976930/

Rebecca Starr Brown. https://rebeccastarrbrown.com/2017/03/02/edward-ivs-marriage-to-elizabeth-woodville-in-context/

Historic Royal Palaces. https://www.hrp.org.uk/tower-of-london/history-and-stories/the-princes-in-the-tower/

Matt Lewis. History hit. https://www.historyhit.com/what-led-to-george-duke-of-clarences-execution-by-wine/

“George Northcroft.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Northcroft#Orthodontics

English Monarchs. https://www.englishmonarchs.co.uk/plantagenet_12.htm#menu

Magalshi. Adventures of a Tudor Nerd. https://adventuresofatudornerd.com/tag/anthony-woodville/

Matthew Lewis. The History Press. https://www.thehistorypress.co.uk/articles/what-if-the-princes-in-the-tower-survived-into-tudor-england/

David Crowther. The History of England. https://thehistoryofengland.co.uk/resource/the-1483-timeline/

Wolverton & District Archaeological and Historical Society. https://www.mkheritage.org.uk/wdahs/docs/edward.html

Bruce Heydt. British Heritage. https://britishheritage.com/history/pretender-throne-perkin-warbeck

Leanda de Lisle. Tudor Times. https://tudortimes.co.uk/guest-articles/lady-margaret-beaufort-hero-or-villain

https://www.historyextra.com/period/medieval/did-richard-iii-really-kill-princes-in-tower-debate-historians/

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2021/02/historian-bolsters-case-that-richard-iii-murdered-the-princes-in-the-tower/

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/princes-tower-will-ultimate-cold-case-finally-be-solved-after-more-500-years-10466190.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princes_in_the_Tower

https://www.livescience.com/richard-iii-nephew-murders.html

Croyland Chronicles

Chronicle of London

The usurpation of Richard the Third: Dominicus Mancinus ad Angelum Catonem de occupatione Regni Anglie per Ricardum Tercium libellus

History Extra Podcast: Princes in the Tower

 

Old Timey Crimey #109: Velma West - “Log Cabin”

Old Timey Crimey #109: Velma West - “Log Cabin”

April 16, 2021

She's not just a small town girl living in a lonely world, and she won't take the midnight train going anywhere. She will, however, take the roadster to a bridge party in Cleveland. 

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Music:

Breaktime by Kevin MacLeod
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Secret of Tiki Island Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
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Breaktime by Kevin MacLeod
Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3457-breaktime
License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

Mark Gribben. Malefactor’s Register. http://malefactorsregister.com/wp/nightclub-girl-in-a-curfew-town/

Wikipedia. Perry, OH. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perry,_Ohio#Demographics. Gene Malin. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gene_Malin

Mark Gilson. “The Historic Nursery Belt of Lake County.” Gardenopolis Cleveland. https://www.gardenopoliscleveland.org/2018/06/the-historic-nursery-belt-of-lake-county-part-1/

Murderpedia. https://murderpedia.org/female.W/w/west-velma.htm

Richard Raponi. Cleveland Historical. https://clevelandhistorical.org/index.php/files/show/1879

Sarah Pruitt. History.com. https://www.history.com/news/gay-culture-roaring-twenties-prohibition

Natalie Zarrelli. Atlas Obscura. https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/in-the-early-20th-century-america-was-awash-in-incredible-queer-nightlife

Cindy. Scandals and Sweets. https://scandalsandsweets.com/velma-west-iron-flapper-a-sad-ending-to-a-sad-life/

Mark J. Price. Beacon Journal. https://www.beaconjournal.com/article/20140622/news/306229547

Newspapers.com: Lancaster Eagle-Gazette, Brownsville Herald, News-Journal, The Circleville Herald, Times Herald

https://www.newspapers.com/search/#query=%22edward+west%22&p_province=us-oh&dr_year=1926-1927

LOC: Brownsville Herald. https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn86063730/1927-12-26/ed-1/seq-6/#date1=1926&index=0&rows=20&words=Velma+West&searchType=basic&sequence=0&state=&date2=1928&proxtext=%22velma+west%22&y=10&x=11&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=1

https://murderpedia.org/female.W/w/west-velma.htm

 

Old Timey Crimey #108: Violet Gibson - “Trains and Ladies”

Old Timey Crimey #108: Violet Gibson - “Trains and Ladies”

April 9, 2021

A woman born into privilege tries to change history and comes closer than anyone else to doing so--and she doesn't even travel in time! That we know of. 

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Music:

Breaktime by Kevin MacLeod
Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3457-breaktime
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Secret of Tiki Island Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
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Sources:

"Dear You," short story about Gibson: https://accenti.ca/dear-you/

Kate Hickey. “The Irish woman who shot Mussolini in the face.” Irish Central. “https://www.irishcentral.com/roots/history/irish-woman-shot-mussolini

Wikipedia – Edward Gibson. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Gibson,_1st_Baron_Ashbourne. Mortification. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mortification_in_Catholic_theology. Bellamy Salute. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bellamy_salute. Mussolini. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benito_Mussolini. Assassination Attempts. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_attempts_on_Benito_Mussolini

Frances Fahy. “Violet Gibson: The Irish Woman Who Shot Mussolini.” Italics Magazine. https://italicsmag.com/2021/01/29/violet-gibson-the-woman-who-shot-mussolini/

Council Grove Republican, The Plain Speaker, The Age, Albuquerque Journal, Yonkers Herald via Newspapers.com https://www.newspapers.com/image/343683720/?terms=%22violet%20gibson%22&match=1

Society of Saint Francis. “Saint Francis and Brother Ass.” http://www.franciscanarchive.org.uk/1996jan-angelossf.html

Nora McGreevy. Smithsonian Mag. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/1926-irish-woman-shot-benito-mussolini-and-almost-altered-history-forever-180977286/

Michael Sheils McNamee. BBC. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-56111443

NYTimes Magazine on Twitter. https://mobile.twitter.com/NYTmag/status/657618681204244480

Brian Koberlein. Forbes Magazine. https://www.forbes.com/sites/briankoberlein/2015/10/23/why-its-impossible-to-go-back-in-time-and-kill-baby-hitler/?sh=499e972229c0

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violet_Gibson

https://www.openculture.com/?p=1088130

https://www.jstor.org/stable/1134640?seq=1

https://www.reddit.com/r/history/comments/loscaa/violet_gibson_the_irish_woman_who_shot_benito/

https://www.irishcentral.com/roots/history/irish-woman-shot-mussolini

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/1926-irish-woman-shot-benito-mussolini-and-almost-altered-history-forever-180977286/

https://www.pri.org/stories/2021-03-17/woman-who-shot-benito-mussolini-was-forgotten-decades-ireland-wants-change

https://irelandxo.com/ireland-xo/history-and-genealogy/ancestor-database/violet-gibson

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/a-shot-to-nothing-an-irishman-s-diary-on-the-dublin-woman-who-tried-to-assassinate-mussolini-1.2603844

https://www.irishpost.com/violet-gibson

 

Old Timey Crimey #101 - Lizzie Borden Part 2: “Flea Rags”

Old Timey Crimey #101 - Lizzie Borden Part 2: “Flea Rags”

February 19, 2021

PART 2 of the infamous murders of Abby and Andrew Borden looks at the trial, the aftermath, some weird shit that happened because people are weird, and finally--THEORIES! 

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Music:

Evil Plan by Kevin MacLeod
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Breaktime by Kevin MacLeod
Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3457-breaktime
License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

Sources:

The Trial of Lizzie Borden by Cara Robertson

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fall_River,_Massachusetts

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Skeleton_in_Armor

Evening World via LOC

Deborah Allard. Herald News. https://www.heraldnews.com/article/20150601/NEWS/150609465

Professor Douglas O. Linder and law students. Famous Trials. https://famous-trials.com/lizzieborden

Chronology. Lizzieandrewborden.com https://web.archive.org/web/20150402145937/http://lizzieandrewborden.com/crimelibrary/chronologies/chronology1789-1892.htm

Diana Griffiths. The Hatchet: A Journal of Lizzie Borden and Victorian Studies. https://ochm.medium.com/lizzie-borden-and-the-taunton-jail-d8224024666f

William F. Hanna. Old Colony History Museum. https://ochm.medium.com/lizzie-borden-and-the-taunton-jail-d8224024666f

Boston Globe. https://www.newspapers.com/image/430858491/?terms=Lizzie%20Borden&match=1

https://newengland.com/today/living/homes/lizzie-borden-house-fall-river/

 

https://www.legendsofamerica.com/lizzie-borden/

https://www.biography.com/news/lizzie-borden-life-after-murder-trial

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lizzie_Borden

https://www.womenshistory.org/articles/lizzie-borden-trial-1892

https://www.zocalopublicsquare.org/2019/07/21/how-did-19th-century-axe-murderer-lizzie-borden-become-a-household-name/ideas/essay/

https://www.biography.com/crime-figure/lizzie-borden

https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/borden-parents-found-dead

https://www.crimemuseum.org/crime-library/famous-murders/lizzie-borden/

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/why-19th-century-axe-murderer-lizzie-borden-was-found-not-guilty-180972707/

https://www.livescience.com/lizzie-borden-house-for-sale.html

https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/81765/how-lizzie-borden-spent-her-life-after-being-acquitted

https://www.bustle.com/p/what-happened-to-lizzie-borden-after-the-murders-lizzie-gives-yet-another-take-on-the-story-11881038

Unresolved Mysteries, Reddit. https://www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/kodcvs/whats_your_weirdest_theory/

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