Old Timey Crimey #114: The Princes in the Tower (Pt 2) - “Princeducken”

We continue to delve into one of history's greatest mysteries--what happened to the young would-be king of England after his uncle sent him and his brother to the tower? We finish up this two-parter with a discussion of theories and bones. Featuring special guest, Hugo-nominated fanzine editor Chris Garcia!

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Rebecca Starr Brown. https://rebeccastarrbrown.com/2017/03/02/edward-ivs-marriage-to-elizabeth-woodville-in-context/

Historic Royal Palaces. https://www.hrp.org.uk/tower-of-london/history-and-stories/the-princes-in-the-tower/

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History Extra Podcast: Princes in the Tower

Old Timey Crimey #34: Madame Fahmy - “Bratzels”

She's the sex worker who made it work. This week, we're looking at Madame Fahmy, born Marguerite Alibert, and her tragic youth, tumultuous relationships, and a murder that would rock the British royal family.

Plus, we question whether bigamy is a gateway drug, invent a new (and delicious-sounding) food, and discuss what serial killers and 1900s British lawyers have in common.

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And remember, keep those letters where a future king blabs about all kinds of juicy stuff. You never know when they might come in handy.
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Sources:

Baker, Rob. “The Murder of Ali Fahmy At The Savoy Hotel.” Another Nickel in the Machine. http://www.nickelinthemachine.com/2008/11/the-murder-of-ali-fahmy-at-the-savoy-hotel/

Rizk, Dr Yunan Labib. “A Diwan of Contemporary Life.” Ahram.org.eg

Souerbry, Rachel. "From Sex Worker To Princess To Murderer: The Remarkable Rise and Fall of Marguerite Alibert." Medium.. https://medium.com/@editors_91459/from-sex-worker-to-princess-to-murderer-the-remarkable-rise-and-fall-of-marguerite-alibert-23a722a1f99e

“The Perfect Murder.” Royalty Magazine. https://www.royalty-magazine.com/books-film/the-perfect-murder-2.html

Willson, Robert. “A Royal Scandal.” Sydney Morning Herald. https://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/books/a-royal-scandal-20130829-2stky.html

Yusof, Mohd Yaakob. “Marguerite Fahmy Case File.” Murderpedia. http://murderpedia.org/female.F/f/fahmy-marguerite.htm

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